Comments on: SONET/SDH fading away? Not anytime soon… http://mccanntelecom.com/sonetsdh-fading-away-not-anytime-soon European Telecommunications Markets and Events....from the trenches Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:59:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Roland Leners http://mccanntelecom.com/sonetsdh-fading-away-not-anytime-soon/comment-page-1#comment-107 Roland Leners Mon, 10 May 2010 10:15:25 +0000 http://mccanntelecom.com/?p=181#comment-107 My company (Network Mining) is doing audits for carriers, predominantly transport (and within transport : SDH/SONET). I can only confirm the above: the installed base is huge, depreciated, easy to operate with limited staff, and ... difficult/expensive to switch off or migrate. My company (Network Mining) is doing audits for carriers, predominantly transport (and within transport : SDH/SONET). I can only confirm the above: the installed base is huge, depreciated, easy to operate with limited staff, and … difficult/expensive to switch off or migrate.

]]> By: DTAG’s new Plan http://mccanntelecom.com/sonetsdh-fading-away-not-anytime-soon/comment-page-1#comment-66 DTAG’s new Plan Wed, 17 Feb 2010 23:28:35 +0000 http://mccanntelecom.com/?p=181#comment-66 [...] SONET/SDH fading away? Not anytime soon… [...] [...] SONET/SDH fading away? Not anytime soon… [...]

]]> By: mccannte http://mccanntelecom.com/sonetsdh-fading-away-not-anytime-soon/comment-page-1#comment-8 mccannte Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:03:24 +0000 http://mccanntelecom.com/?p=181#comment-8 Over the years I have learned that for any company to be successful in technology one must adopt the product set like one would adopt a child. Eat, drink, sleep the product and the basic unique value of the product.....or Marc, in your words "tunnel view" ;-) It's what quite a few Tech Industry employees call "Drinking the Kool Aid" of their particular company. Unfortunately this "kool-aid" mentality tends to eclipse the customers needs at times, exactly as it did with me. I was just as surprised as anyone that someone wanted SDH/SONET to stick around for the forseeable future ;-) Over the years I have learned that for any company to be successful in technology one must adopt the product set like one would adopt a child. Eat, drink, sleep the product and the basic unique value of the product…..or Marc, in your words "tunnel view" ;-)

It's what quite a few Tech Industry employees call "Drinking the Kool Aid" of their particular company.

Unfortunately this "kool-aid" mentality tends to eclipse the customers needs at times, exactly as it did with me. I was just as surprised as anyone that someone wanted SDH/SONET to stick around for the forseeable future ;-)

]]> By: mbind http://mccanntelecom.com/sonetsdh-fading-away-not-anytime-soon/comment-page-1#comment-7 mbind Wed, 11 Nov 2009 04:23:22 +0000 http://mccanntelecom.com/?p=181#comment-7 I had to smile ... is this really a surprise? Ever wondered if we "packet" and/or "IP" people have a tunnel view? Whom are we talking to? Likely other Ethernet or IP people. And the particular vendors we talk to have a strong interest to spin the story as well. Since I'm in business I got told "voice is dead", i.e. the traditional voice TDM services and technology. But companies I know always made money with TDM voice, though the margin gets smaller and smaller. Just another example of "must have" new technologies and the reality. There is nothing wrong with Ethernet or IP but we have forgotten how brilliant Sonet/SDH or ATM is engineered. When a guarantee was really guaranteed and not a (weak) statistical or purely marketing statement. Btw, when my company is asking customers in North America or Europe for access interface forecasts then it's surprisingly often T1/E1, T3/E3 (sure, aggregated into channelized STM-x). Marc I had to smile … is this really a surprise? Ever wondered if we "packet" and/or "IP" people have a tunnel view? Whom are we talking to? Likely other Ethernet or IP people. And the particular vendors we talk to have a strong interest to spin the story as well.
Since I'm in business I got told "voice is dead", i.e. the traditional voice TDM services and technology. But companies I know always made money with TDM voice, though the margin gets smaller and smaller. Just another example of "must have" new technologies and the reality.
There is nothing wrong with Ethernet or IP but we have forgotten how brilliant Sonet/SDH or ATM is engineered. When a guarantee was really guaranteed and not a (weak) statistical or purely marketing statement.
Btw, when my company is asking customers in North America or Europe for access interface forecasts then it's surprisingly often T1/E1, T3/E3 (sure, aggregated into channelized STM-x).

Marc

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