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		<title>By: Antti Pappila</title>
		<link>http://mccanntelecom.com/wishes-from-the-mwc/comment-page-1#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Antti Pappila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s updated blog URL for my reply above: http://managed-ethernet-access.blogspot.com/2010/03/mobile-world-congress-wants-active.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s updated blog URL for my reply above: <a href="http://managed-ethernet-access.blogspot.com/2010/03/mobile-world-congress-wants-active.html" rel="nofollow">http://managed-ethernet-access.blogspot.com/2010/03/mobile-world-congress-wants-active.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John McCann</title>
		<link>http://mccanntelecom.com/wishes-from-the-mwc/comment-page-1#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>John McCann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 13:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marc,

I think, aside from timing, that Ethernet is already there.  The advances in OAM and the ITU taking the technology seriously has promoted it into prime-time.  With that said.....timing (sync) is still a biiiiiiiig issue.  We&#039;re left with a choice on timing; settle for timing that isn&#039;t as accurate as we&#039;re used to or replace every bit of ethernet gear in the network which is more than 3 years old.....

I&#039;ve seen some really good transport/service solutions recently that are hardware based and are surprisingly inexpensive.  If you&#039;re interested we can talk about those ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marc,</p>
<p>I think, aside from timing, that Ethernet is already there.  The advances in OAM and the ITU taking the technology seriously has promoted it into prime-time.  With that said&#8230;..timing (sync) is still a biiiiiiiig issue.  We&#8217;re left with a choice on timing; settle for timing that isn&#8217;t as accurate as we&#8217;re used to or replace every bit of ethernet gear in the network which is more than 3 years old&#8230;..</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen some really good transport/service solutions recently that are hardware based and are surprisingly inexpensive.  If you&#8217;re interested we can talk about those <img src='http://mccanntelecom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://mccanntelecom.com/wishes-from-the-mwc/comment-page-1#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello John,

good you visit such events and get an insight. Very interesting!  Also good to see the industry slowly turns into something more mature. Not surprised it&#039;s the mobile carriers driving this.

&quot;will come up with a way to solve these problems elegantly without going way over budget&quot; -  I enjoy the ironic aspect of this: ethernet is the solution, because it is so inexpensive. And packet networks offer you so much more flexibility. Both is true. But getting more for paying less, shouldn&#039;t we be a bit more suspicious?

IMHO the Ethernet product doesn&#039;t really exist yet, at least not the Ethernet that can replace TDM or ATM. I don&#039;t say it cannot be done and it will happen for sure. But I wonder how much remains in terms of costs savings. Well, that is probably obfuscated with the next upgrade of linecards, i.e. when new ASICs/NPs have to be rolled out anyway.

Do we really wonder when the carriers are reluctant to buy?

While I don&#039;t solve the problem my bet is on the modern NPs that allow a fairly generic programming, allowing a &quot;simple&quot; implementation by code change and yet delivering the performance and accuracy. Normal software solutions are possible but I&#039;ve seen in our code how easy it is to break real-time behaviour despite a proper QNX underneath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello John,</p>
<p>good you visit such events and get an insight. Very interesting!  Also good to see the industry slowly turns into something more mature. Not surprised it&#8217;s the mobile carriers driving this.</p>
<p>&#8220;will come up with a way to solve these problems elegantly without going way over budget&#8221; &#8211;  I enjoy the ironic aspect of this: ethernet is the solution, because it is so inexpensive. And packet networks offer you so much more flexibility. Both is true. But getting more for paying less, shouldn&#8217;t we be a bit more suspicious?</p>
<p>IMHO the Ethernet product doesn&#8217;t really exist yet, at least not the Ethernet that can replace TDM or ATM. I don&#8217;t say it cannot be done and it will happen for sure. But I wonder how much remains in terms of costs savings. Well, that is probably obfuscated with the next upgrade of linecards, i.e. when new ASICs/NPs have to be rolled out anyway.</p>
<p>Do we really wonder when the carriers are reluctant to buy?</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t solve the problem my bet is on the modern NPs that allow a fairly generic programming, allowing a &#8220;simple&#8221; implementation by code change and yet delivering the performance and accuracy. Normal software solutions are possible but I&#8217;ve seen in our code how easy it is to break real-time behaviour despite a proper QNX underneath.</p>
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		<title>By: Antti Pappila</title>
		<link>http://mccanntelecom.com/wishes-from-the-mwc/comment-page-1#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Antti Pappila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Very interesting article, I hope you do not mind me quoting you at my Managed Ethernet Access blog :) 

BR

-Antti

http://managedethernetaccess.blogspot.com/2010/03/mobile-world-congress-wants-active.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Very interesting article, I hope you do not mind me quoting you at my Managed Ethernet Access blog <img src='http://mccanntelecom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>BR</p>
<p>-Antti</p>
<p><a href="http://managedethernetaccess.blogspot.com/2010/03/mobile-world-congress-wants-active.html" rel="nofollow">http://managedethernetaccess.blogspot.com/2010/03/mobile-world-congress-wants-active.html</a></p>
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